Then you think it is a matter of 'unlocking'..? [....Hmmm. He supposes that bears some thinking. After all, he had never sought magic out, not in the slightest. Meditation was a focus, in particular; the thing that could have gotten him there...

...He does not feel speaking with Mari would be too helpful. He doesn't know her, after all, so that already seems awkward to him. And as for Sans, he has a sneaking suspicion he may have said or done something to upset the other. It's the feeling he gets.

An expert....] ....I, the man Gongenzaka, feel I understand, then.

....Thank you, Joker.