Great, now they're being talked over like they aren't even here. It makes enough sense if they themselves don't actually matter. It does reveal the end goal, at least, which should have been obvious from the start. What to do...

Well.

If this is a non-violent trail of some kind... Childermass lets go of Lambert's arm and takes another step towards the Count's throne but, again, he won't go too far.

"You bring us here claiming that we must pay for the Ringmaster's crimes in her stead but what proof do you have of her transgressions? The Great Beast could not even stand against the Rose Queen in Portland and you expect us to believe a Queen, who must undoubtedly be more powerful than any of you, was defeated and devoured by her? All on her own, with no help?"