"Mmmhmmm," he says with a nod, "He's got ice in him now, somehow. Ain't sure how it all shook out, but... Creation just kind of does its own thing, you know? In the end, it gave him the power to overwhelm the Mother's hold on our powers."

He leans back in the chair, kicking one leg up over the other so he can pick idly at his talons.

"... I 'spect he's not too happy about it, though. It's... well. I understand why. To be made so polar-opposite of everything you've ever known... and you know how badly he reacted to that tail and stuff he had from the Ringmaster! This is even more."